Thanks for the answer stefvanriet.
Much appreciated.

You are absolutely right, I view case setups as groovebox-type instruments I learn to play and improvise on for a while (before changing it all again) rather than canvas I patch/unpatch often. i just love the immediacy, playability and sound of eurorack (vs. dawless desktop grooveboxes).

As for hp constraint, I just need the focus. If I have too many options I tend to play less.

Anyhoo. Interesting notes. I like your "no 2 of the same module" take. It's true it could help me find new sounds and variations (even with a fixed patch :) ).

Also I will deduplicate stuff to add modulation.

And I really love the idea of a dj fader. I think it would be great to have another small case with a completely different take/sound and be able to switch from one "track" to the other. It would allow me to prepare a sequence while the other is playing, turntable-style.

I'll think about it and will circle back.

Maybe Legios would have to be tamed for Ambient House :D

Love Pam, you get used to the menu and the base features are pretty instinctive, but still just one button, so if you have multiple euclidean voices to change on the fly, it is not the most immediate.

Never tried it but vpme's Euclidian Circles V2 seems interesting.

Hello!
Cool project.
It would help to have a bit more context.
What type of music do you intend to make?
What level of control do you envision (randomness vs programmed sequences vs playability etc.)?
What type of drums sounds do you prefer ? (analog vs digital)
How much HP?

Here's a stab at a 4 part skiff I would like to build

I'd clock with a Pique, it has two tracks (so the second one can be used as LFO for modulation). Then sequence with a Steppy (plenty of options, randomness, playability, memory slots).

Then I would have 4 Noise Eng Legio modules...they released a ton of firmwares (Kick, percs etc.). They give you a good range of sounds, some modulation cv inputs etc. - and you can repurpose them as oscillators, filters etc. in the future (I use the Tymp Legio for kicks, and like it -it can mix and duck an input)

I would then get them all through a module with fx send/return like mega tang and add an effect...clocked delay for ex. like FX Aid.

Some Legio modules can mix an input, so one can chain them, eliminating the need to add a mixer.

Again, really depends on context, objectives, and budget. One good module with modulation can also be great drum kit of course.

Let me know your thoughts :)

I just finished patching this instrument - mostly for techno and dub.

bass
- tymp with fx aid, ducked with pique envelope, quadratt and the dual vco 1u, and outed on the second channel of Xoh
- triggered with one track of steppy
- notes from melodi

Kick
- FM drum from second pique, through track 4 of mega tang

Snare / HH
- the 2 SYO5
- High hat decay modulated by LFO 1u
- both go into track 1 and 2 of the VCA

Effect
- send return of mega tang on desmodus
- the mega tang outs on track 1 of xoh
- FX aid for the bass

Synth
- Brooks with notes from Melodi triggered with one track of steppy and an envelope on the first pique
- goes to track 3 of vca

the little doepfer switch
- gives me 2 diff kick tracks, 2 diff snare tracks, from steppy
- and allows me to switch brooks from square wave to sine

Filters on everything except the kick (no more room), but the fm drum on the pique is very playable and can be modified a lot

Anyhoo.

Anything you'd add or remove or structure differently? I try to maintain the limitation of the 104hp 4u case, but find that I have roughly 15 mins of playability. After that it feels like I am repeating myself...

any idea?
maybe swap the brooks with a small sample module to get different sounds ?

Let me know!
Thx in advance

EDITED Oct 17th, 16:21

Hey, steppy + turing machine seems like a good, quite performative. small footprint, combo. But it depends. what exactly will you be sequencing?

Hey all,
Hope all is well!

Here is an iteration on my palette travel case, for minimalist techno. Please let me know your thoughts, things you'd change, swap etc.

It's basically a "complete" standalone drum machine. Pony VCO will take care of Leads, Tymp Legio will do the kick and some round background bass notes. Pony VCO will go through filter and Desmodus and then into Tymp, for some Ducking. Then the S-LD will provide 3 samples which will be mixed and filtered via Eudemonia. Then I'll mix what comes out of Desmodus and Eudemonia in the Xoh. Pons asinorum will provide enveloppe for Pony and LFO for melody (through the Mosaic quantizer) plus 2 LFOs for modulation via the 1U attenuators in the top right corner. Steppy will sequence Lead, Kick, "snare" and Melody LFO reset. Running order will take care of HH and another perc.

That's pretty much it. I think it will be fun.

Thanks Zacksname,

I could fit this matrix mixer :)
https://modulargrid.net/e/ai-synthesis-ai008-eurorack-matrix-mixer

Watched a couple of videos about matrix mixers. It's a great tool indeed to distribute modulation. And would save me some attenuators at the same time. Love it. Honestly had never really thought about it that way. I usually plug mimetic or an LFO into the targetted cv input through Quadratt and that's it.

Hey! Thanks for the notes.

Yes I tend to like mults cause I don't use stackables or out of case mults. I use tendrils as I don't patch/unpatch much and it helps for playability. Maybe 5 is a bit much though :)

Gonna look into you suggestions. Never used a Matrix mixer. Thought it was mainly useful to facilitate effects routing and the mixer has effects sends so I didn't give it much thought.

Switched multiples I could use to facilitate certain transitions, alternate between sounds etc. And I could most certainly use more attenuverters and envelopes.

Will see what I can fit in.

Hello!

Hesitant on what to do with remaining 22hp.

I was thinking of Virt iter legio + Ghost as it would allow me to vary the sounds (virt can sound like an organ), and Ghost comes with a few cool features (sidechain, a big filter knob!). but there´s already a ton of sonic possibilities with Ultra-kick, BIA, Tymp and the dual oscillator.

What would you suggest I fill the gap with?

I tend to make minimalist repetitive dubish electronic music (think Surgeon or Colin Benders but slower with a ton of bass).

I usually go for no-menu immediately playable modules.

Thanks!

Thanks for taking the time farkas

True. I built a few super dense cases (like 12+ modules 62hp palettes) and accessibility/playability is an issue. I manage-ish by iterating on module position/direction and using angled Tendril cables with optimized length (once patched I usually keep the rig for a few weeks).

Maybe I could try and leverage something like this fader module ?https://modulargrid.net/e/atovproject-16n-atovproject-rework

Yes. Percall seems like a good idea. It would replace the Mega tang ? Only issue is I would not have the Fx send/return, which is kind of cool in such a small space. I'll think of a way. Maybe I could take out Pons Asinorum and add and small submixer to emulate an Fx send.

Thanks!

Hello!
Here is an attempt at a small techno rack.

Random notes :

2 brooks will serve as bass and lead.
2 doepfer vco and noise will be used to patch percussive sounds (ideally kick, snare and some sort of hh). Kick patch will likely go through LPG 1U.

I dig minimal techno. So the most important thing for me is to be able to easily mute/unmute stuff and control the length/snapyness of sounds.

Steppy will sequence the 3 percussive sounds and a reset signal.

Bloom will handle bass and lead.

One brooks (lead) will go to mixer Xer dualis via Wasp filter, Dvca and Electus.

The second brooks will go to mixer via Wasp filter and Mega tangle.

Mega tangle will also power percussions and MFX will be patched through send/return.

Neo trinity ans Pons asinorum will modulate, with quadratt to attenuate modulation.

Does it work?
Can I get a powerful kick patch here?
Any changes I could make to improve the setup in this form factor (104hp/4U) ?
Any feedback ?

Thanks!

EDITED Dec 10th 2024, 12:40

After Later Audio Scenes (stage clone) looks great, thanks for the tip. I'll do that instead of 2 dual ADSR. Will also check Sound on Sound series. Thanks again for taking the time.

Hey thanks lot for answering!

Sorry, my post lacked context.
I do have Pam's and Steppy for sequencing duties. I was really wondering about the patching techniques you would use to make the most out of these 5 modules as a drum unit.

So if I understand well, I could use one Brooks, one ADSR channel and one VCA channel to implement a kick.

And 2 ADSR channels, one Brooks, noise and 2 VCA channels to implement a snare.

Means I need more ADSR!

So let's say I add a second Dual ADSR to have 4 different envelopes.

Could I then leverage the last Cloaks VCA, the remaining envelope and the noise to add Hats to the mix?

The images doesn't seem to show the last version of the rack. There are in fact 2 brooks.

Hello all,
I tend to use dedicated percussion modules for drum duties.
Now, I would like to patch my drum sounds out of base components, in order to have more flexibility/sound variety/control.

What could I make out of these 5 modules?

Based on what I read, I could make a decent Kick, snare and hats.

How would you patch a 3 part drum kit with these modules? Or even a 4 part drum kit?

Let me know your thoughts, different choices of modules, additions etc.

Thanks.

Smooth. What's your setup?

Hey,
Here is an update.

I ended up with a differeng setup:

With 2 more modules than the 12 expected on the 62hp Palette case. Works fine!

It's a fun little skiff. Not much variation on the sounds, but Neo-Trinity allows for on-the-fly cv recording to change melodies, steppy is quite playable, I can alter the synths´ decay with Total Recall and note triggers with Running Order, Electus is quite fun, I even have some ducking with Tymp...not too bad for such a small portable case.

Objective

Portable weekend/travel palette.

Context

Pushing the limits of the 62hp palette beyond the 12 native power slots w/ flying bus cable, with modules that didn't make the final cut on my main rack

Music

Techno-dub-ish delirium

Random patch notes

• Total recall will handle decay of Brooks and Pico Drum high hat through Pons Asinorum; decay of pluck
• Remaining Pons tracks will be for modulation
• Tymp legio will hanlde BD with low bass and ducking
• Brooks for mid bass
• Pluck for lead
• Peaks not sure yet, but probably snares or modulation
• Pico Drums 2nd track for bell or snares (if Peaks is on modulation duty)
• Arp...well...arp cv distributed to both Brooks, Tymp and Pluck cv/oct (they'll all have different triggers)
• Running order and Steppy - sequencing duties w/ one track of Steppy for reset variations
• Pico dsp for drum fx
• Electus (or I'll flash it for Desmodus) for fx on the pluck
• Brooks will be handled with LPG 1U and Pons Asinorum

I'd put the 2 sequencers, total recall and Arp on the same flying bus cable

Will it work ?
Any suggestions for changes ?

Thx a lot !

EDITED Oct 19th 2024, 04:46

Hello!

Given that you don't want to go slow. I would suggest focusing on straightforward playable modules rather than modules with a steep learning curve. Otherwise you'll end up spending hours learning how modules work rather than actually making music.

As you dislike menu diving, and you are Visual, there is a chance you won't like complex modules with lots of combos. You should consider prioritizing playable modules with one function per knob. That way you can approach each module like a little instrument.

In that perspective and based on the modules I know (only 4 in your racks!)

• Desmodus is a keeper. Love it.
• Bloom, I like it and the company is great, but based on my comment above I would replace it with a Turing Machine and a quantizer or something like that.
• Queen of Pentacles, I still use it but it can get boring, as there is not much to modulate. Mem card is in the back which makes it cumbersome to change the samples. I'd replace it with a basimilus and a couple of Tymp Legios.
• Pico DSP, I like it in small cases, but I would let go of the small modules. You have a lot of real estate and again, larger and more playable modules can help get to the music.

One last comment. Given that you'd have 3 cases full of modules. I would suggest keeping it all in there. No midi, no external gear. That way you can really focus on your setup, patches etc.

Hey, just my 2 cents :)
Have fun!

EDITED Sep 6th 2024, 21:53